Bobby Samuelson

  • (p6-155) – Bobby Samuels (MetLife) said the companies that are not in support of the ACLI proposal are not opposed to the IUL product but are opposed to the current illustration practices.
    • He clarified that the IUL product is strictly a general account product that uses general account returns to hedge the index risk within the product.
    • He said one of dissenting companies’ concerns is that IUL illustrated rates tend to be double the rates used to illustrate traditional universal life products.
    • He said the dissenting companies are also concerned about indexed loans, which can lead to significant leveraging within the policy. 

2014 0918 – NAIC – LATF, Life Actuarial Task Force, Conference Call

  • Mr. Birdsall asked if the agent compensation structure for IUL products provide greater incentives for agents than is provided by the compensation structure of traditional universal life (UL) products.
  • Bobby Samuelson (MetLife) said that a compensation study he had previously conducted found that, on average, IUL policies have a target premium 80% higher than the average target premium for UL products.

2014 – NAIC – LATF – 11/14-15/2014 – 6-63

  • 1. Discussed IUL Illustration Actuarial Guideline Proposals
  • Bobby Samuelson (MetLife) pointed out that dividend rates on whole life contracts are not the same as crediting rates on universal life contracts. He noted that a 7.1% rate on an IUL policy will illustrate more attractively than a
    7.1% dividend yield on a whole life policy.

2015-2, NAIC Proceedings  IULSG – IUL Illustration Subgroup – NAIC – 2/5/2015 …………………… (6-106) (997-998)

2010s

  • 2012 0616 – BrokersAlliance – Is Indexed Universal Life Good or Bad? – Bobby Samuelson[VIDEO-YouTube] 
  • 2012 0616 – BrokersAlliance – Is Whole Life Insurance A Rip Off? – Bobby Samuelson[VIDEO-YouTube]
    • sales story vs actuarially story
  • 2014 – NAIC – LATF – 11/14-15/2014 – 6-63
    • Mr. Birdsall asked if the agent compensation structure for IUL products provide greater incentives for agents than is provided by the compensation structure of traditional universal life (UL) products.
    • Bobby Samuelson (MetLife) said that a compensation study he had previously conducted found that, on average, IUL policies have a target premium 80% higher than the average target premium for UL products.
  • 2014 0918 – NAIC – LATF, Life Actuarial Task Force, Conference Call
    • (p6-155) – Bobby Samuelson (MetLife) said the companies that are not in support of the ACLI proposal are not opposed to the IUL product but are opposed to the current illustration practices.
      • He clarified that the IUL product is strictly a general account product that uses general account returns to hedge the index risk within the product.
      • He said one of dissenting companies’ concerns is that IUL illustrated rates tend to be double the rates used to illustrate traditional universal life products.
      • He said the dissenting companies are also concerned about indexed loans, which can lead to significant leveraging within the policy.

2020s

  • 2022 0626 – LIFE180 – The Tragedy of Indexed Universal Life Insurance (IUL) – [Bobby Samuelson] [VIDEO-YouTube-02:05]
  • 2023 0705 – BetterWealth – Expert Reviews Whole Life Insurance, IUL’s, and Annuities – [Bobby Samuelson]  —  [BonkNote]  —  [VIDEO-YouTube-01:14:13]
  • 2023 0810 – The And Asset – Whole Life vs IUL | Which Life Insurance Product is Better? W/ Bobby Samuelson[VIDEO-YouTube-06:50]
    • Aggressive Illustrations
    • 2006 – Kick off Illustration War – Change –
      • New Players in the IUL Business – Securian, AIG, Penn Mutual, 
      • PacLife – PDX
      • Loop Hole
      • Ag49-A – Multiplier Wars
      • Engineered Indexed
      • AG49-B – 
      • Why? – Illustration v Product
      • Reasonable 
      • Companies knew, Shameless, 
  • 2023 1130 – ThinkAdvisor – Consumer Reps Ask States to Change Annuities’ Faces, By Allison Bell – [link]
    • Illustrations, 
    • Birny Birnbaum, Brenda Cude, Bobby Samuelson, Larry Rybka
  • 2025 1103 – The Life Product Review – Bobby Samuelson – #443 – Busch v. Pacific Life – [link]